Compatibility Reputation will probably have reset from neutral to the proper standing. Also finish Lonesome road by nuking NCR and legion. Other than it being the starting area of the game it's pretty boring imo. Unless provoked they will not attack you yet. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Leaders NCR Correctional Facility A Powder Ganger wearing a guard uniform stands by the door. Yet again large over-regulated irresponsible government failing. New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt slightly before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+2). Their biggest raid occurred on Sloan, where they stole an entire cache of dynamite used by the workers to mine Quarry Junction. Convinced the Omerta Thugs to leave peacefully (+2). Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. Resolved: Release in which this issue/RFE has been resolved. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Chet can actually store some good crafting parts, some rarer mods, and for some reason I often see him keeping around a bunch of Caravan cards. Instead all they do is mouth off to me in dialogue. 3 Nygmus 1 yr. ago The powder gang boss in the prison is a nice source of free dynamite forever if you make friends with them. Successfully assisted Hardin in replacing Elder McNamara as Elder of the Mojave Brotherhood of Steel with himself, and therefore did not assist McNamara in his own tasks (+4). I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. Doctors #2 Silverio Dec 29, 2014 @ 5:10am Thanks for the quick response. Is this how it should be? This happened to me when I was vilified. Some think that the reset of reputation is caused by committing an infamous act towards a faction while wearing that faction's clothing. One of the many mining car collections found in the facility, State prison sign before the turn off to the NCRCF. Thanks everyone for all the info. If anything this taught me to save more often. [Non-game 1] However, as the war with the Legion escalated, more and more prison guards were redeployed to the Colorado River despite the warden's objections. Get enough of it and they'll start to attack on sight, but wearing faction-armour will disguise you (just be aware some NPCs can see through it). For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. If one follows the I Fought the Law questline, they are given the chance to storm the base with the NCR or help the Powder Gangers defend it against the NCR. Unless this was patched in, then no. He sells chems and a few odds and ends. Unlike factions, they cannot alter a town's reputation with faction armor. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). If you acquired a "shunned" reputation with the Powder Gangers by completing the Ghost Town Gunfight, you will still be able to talk to Eddie in order to receive this quest but assaulting anyone in the prison or gaining another level of infamy will turn the Powder Gangers hostile upon your entrance. However you will be offered truce once you will enter their camp unless your reputation with them is very bad in which case they will shoot you anyway. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. I pretty much couldnt get in but i killed someone close to that area that had a key so i got in and killed every single thing in there. Basically the same problem I had. Contents 1 Background 2 Interactions with the player character 2.1 Interactions overview 2.2 Other interactions 3 Combat notes 4 Inventory 5 Notable members 6 Bugs 7 Appearances Background So I am now more or less around Novac, the NCR has been put to the task of keeping Primm in check and I have unfortunately missed out on going to the NCRCF before handling the Powder Gangers at Goodsprings. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. Specific consequences of reputation within towns include: Scripted instances of town Infamy include: Impressing the reclusive gun-toting tribe is an art. Wiping out every Powder Ganger in the facility may cause a prospector to appear here and remain indefinitely. How do I do that? Because of that you can still do the Powder Ganger quests. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. There are two things to keep track of: karma and reputation. Restoring a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Veronica being recruited as a companion again. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. -Completed "Booted" by saving the hostages from the Legion. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. I think that may be by design. As for the merchants in Goodsprings, I guess if you're ok with killing a doctor and a bartender for a 50% discount regular merchant, then go ahead. I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. You Have Been Warned. Behind the scenes The NCR Correctional Facility is based on the real life location of Southern Nevada Correctional Center, an abandoned prison in Jean, Nevada. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. You can get infamy with the Powder Gangers, and if have a mod that fixes the bug where the Powder Gangers faction wasn't given evil karma, you can steal from them without a karma penalty. There are upwards of 40 empty whiskey bottles lying around in the prison yard. Understaffed. 1. The Powder Gangers (also referred to as Powder Gangsters by Johnson Nash) are a gang of escaped prisoners operating in the Mojave Wasteland in 2281 . Speak to Julie again about donating a certain chem after at least nine doses have been donated, resulting in her mentioning that they now have a surplus of that chem, regardless of whether more is then given, as the dialogue itself is what triggers the Fame boost (+2, maximum of +6, once all three chems are in surplus). The Powder Gangers, also known as the Powder Gangsters, are an antagonistic faction in the Fallout universe. Even if you earn rep they'll permanently hate you and shoot you on sight. Is Fallout new Vegas The Best in the series? Several functions may not work. The Gangers are violent and hate the NCR with a passion. A positive reputation is required to receive the. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The first task is to "take care" of a Powder Ganger named Chavez, who Eddie believes is setting up his own crew without permission. If that doesn't work, I do ghost town gunfight after the NCRCF. -Find Vault 19 and complete the quest there. Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? [Non-game 1][7][Non-game 2]. Krystal Wilson. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. Completing quests, helping people, and generally making oneself useful will result in accumulating positive reputation points. What do I do now? The largest post-nuclear nation state offers plenty of opportunities for good people to shine and brutal retaliation to its enemies. Positive reputation yields the following: The military order is quite a bit demanding when it comes to establishing one's reputation with them. Only chance probably is to use stealthboys to get to Eddie. They can kill him without incurring the wrath of the other gang members and enter the facility. In both of these cases, the entrance remains locked from the inside, however. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! Khans value strength, determination, and resilience. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment negatively on each of them (-1). Helping the town is the more moral choice. Similarly, above the door of cell block A, a sign reads "cell block A J. Be violent enough and fit right in. Funny / Fallout: New Vegas Analysis Awesome Characters FanWorks Fridge Funny Headscratchers Heartwarming Laconic NightmareFuel Quotes ShoutOut TearJerker Trivia VideoGame WMG YMMV GameBreaker Haiku VideoExamples Create New They're dogs. It is possible to pickpocket the key from him to avoid the fee. Quests Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. The facility is also under observation from the. Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. That would allow you to do the NCRCF quests more easily whichever way you want to proceed. I know there are missions you can get from them at the NCRCF, but I get shot on site. make sure you get the booted quest that that will change your reputation to mercifull thug (dunno if they will stop attacking you tho). This was changed in the December 14, 2010 update. There's absolutely no reason to be friendly with the Powder Gangers since their quests are pretty awful, and you don't get any decent swag. Dropping to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade being recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. A workbench can be found near the door along with an owned crate of explosives. You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. But yeah, doing Eddie's quests while Shunned will net you fame, but no upgrade in rank. Powder gangers attack me even though idolized at base. Also, once the reputation of 'Wild Child' is earned, there is no ability to change it at all. Buildings Huh. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. Hostile is different. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. You lose karma for stealing, but it's more of a personal marker. Killing members of any faction from a [HIDDEN] state will not cause one to gain Infamy as long as the weapon is considered silent and the target dies with one attack, or if one uses Mister Sandman. I've done the Powder Gangers quests, and quite frankly there just isn't any incentive to help them. Even if they are hostile to you. Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. Not undermanned. Factions *shrugs*. Powder Gangers are members of the Powder Gangers living in the Mojave Wasteland in Fallout: New Vegas . He can either be convinced to "move on" with 30 Speech skill or killed. NCR hit squads will warn the player character to change their reputation with NCR within three days or they will come after them, trying to kill the player character. Think of it as wanting to get an inside "recon" of the NCRCF before joining the NCR on an assault of the prison. If you managed to get yourself vilified, you out of luck. -spoilers-. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. If they are wearing Powder Ganger clothing, Dawes will still talk to them and accept a bribe, but he will turn hostile as the player character gets closer. Cookie Notice This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. Wear the Powder Ganger armor. The jail was understaffed. One such gap in the fence is situated between the lookout tower and the visitors center and the other is located almost directly opposite it, along the eastern fence. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). The player character may receive discounts with merchants, provoke attacks from hired thugs, or simply be treated differently. They do shot you on sight because they are powder gangers. If you join them it is either an early grave, or hatred by everyone (bye bye Vegas!) Best way to do their storyline is to do it before the goodsprings quest or get everything for the people of goodsprings and have them kill the powder gangers. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. The Powder Gangers is a dead end. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. Fallout New Vegas community and everything related. You need to do both quests for them in order to even get a liked reputation and on the way to the prison you can't even kill the ones that attack you or you lose reputation. Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. 5. Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. Kill every Ganger in the main building apart from Eddie, leave the building and wait a day, come back with a powder ganger outfit, sneak until you're just outside the office, then stop sneaking and run to talk with him. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? Im not very far into the game but restarting would reset lots of progress. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). What is the advantage of helping Good Springs? If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. Karma generally doesn't matter. Anyway to undo it. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. The Version table provides details related to the release that this issue/RFE will be addressed. I never talk to Trudy, and don't even enter the saloon. Also im playing on the backwards compatible version for Xbox 1 so console commands arent an option. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? Using their outfit with bad reputation doesn't work, the unnamed Powder Gangers leaves you alone, but the named ones (Dawes, Eddy, etc) will still turn hostile. Choosing to spread the new power equally across the entire Vegas grid (+12). One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I never saw much reforming around here, myself. In other words, while it is possible to move from 'Hated' to 'Sneering Punk', then 'Unpredictable', then 'Dark Hero' by doing more and more good deeds while avoiding bad ones, there is no permanent way to move from 'Hated' back to 'Neutral' or from 'Hated' to 'Idolized.' The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. This may only happen when wiping out the location without help from the NCR. Accessing the "Squad Readiness Reports Terminal" on the front desk in the. It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Hey all, I'm no new player to fallout but I've had a problem crop up. There are very few ways but here a re a couple off the top of my head. Or alienate them. Reputation is specific to a certain group/location and is measured in both fame and infamy; you'll usually gain infamy if someone notices you committing a crime. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! I have no idea if that works, though. No idea if that was really intended, but it feels like a bug. Hannigan All rights reserved. I think you'd still be able to do the quests for them at the NCRCF, and the Vault 19 Powder Gangers aren't affected by your reputation with them. Appearances You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. What I always do is during Ghost Town Gunfight, I only kill 3 or 4 of the Powder Gangers. Factions provide the following benefits/consequences with adequate reputation: In addition, one's reputation with the major factions affects the kind of Courier duster that is received at the end of Lonesome Road. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. Unlike other items in his inventory, pickpocketing the key will never fail as long as the player character is hidden. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. Merchants And if the player character is 'Idolized', they move down the chart to 'Wild Child'. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The combined effects of the two scales result in an overall reputation that is either positive, neutral, or negative. All rights reserved. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. Securitron J7-82463 here, under the direct authority of New Vegas' sole proprietor, Robert Edwin House. Rebuilding to a neutral reputation status (black on table above) will allow for Arcade to be recruited as a companion again, despite his possible angered departure beforehand which caused him to leave. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews . Scout Primm and learn of the NCR's plans (+1). As part of the first quest mentioned above, an NCR hit squad will approach and warn to improve reputation with the NCR within three days. Reputation is separated into two categories: Fame and Infamy. They are introduced in Fallout: New Vegas as a large group of escaped convicts running amok on the I-15 highway area, harassing the small towns of Nipton, Goodsprings, and Primm. Only "Shunned" by Powder Gangers after Ghost Town Gunfight. Camp Forlorn Hope morale was rebuilt decently before agreeing to stage the attack on Nelson with Major Polatli (+4). But there is something weird here. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). [Non-game 1][6] The inmates were tasked with maintaining a railroad alongside the Long 15 under military supervision, keeping the vital link between the Boneyard and New Vegas alive. I also play with an alternate start mod, so that helps. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. Carter In my current game I have become vilified by NCR and they don't attack me on sight. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. Let or help the NCR wipe out the Great Khans without persuading them to release the hostages first (+4). Ref ID It's a sort of tutorial for the reputation system. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. I did the mission in the first town where you kill all the powder gangers, not realizing that it would have repercussions, and now I'm vilified by the gang. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. Through the back door of the visitor's center, the player character can enter the main prison yard. Wearing faction armor can be used to kill members of an opposing faction without gaining Infamy with that faction. I mean disappeared too. Privacy Policy. or having Idolized reputation), they will never become friendly to the Courier again. You have Chet and Trudy as vendors for that part of the map. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Turn in all 3 supply caches and pass the Science check for the irradiated supplies (+2). Community Forum Software by IP.BoardLicensed to: Nexus Mods. I recently started a new play through of Fallout New Vegas, and i wanted to do some of the powder gangers quests because i had never done them before. Please re-enable javascript to access full functionality. He is located at Powder Ganger camp south, which is just south of the prison. Circumstances, but circumstances can change. Arcade Gannon will refuse to be the player character's companion. If you complete Ghost Town Gunfight without personally killing Joe Cobb, I believe the reputation hit is mild enough not to turn the NCRCF permanently hostile. Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). You can actually do all of Eddie's requests without killing anyone, so no karma issues. Mister Holdout will sell weapons to the player character at a discount price. They pray on caravans and travellers, including you. This will knock your infamy up to a level where they won't be hostile to you yet. Wed May 02, 2012 6:08 pm. This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? However, any faction that was hostile towards the Courier will remain so, despite the change. Each action that gains Fame or Infamy is assigned a set value in the editor, which is added via script: Fame and Infamy (denoted 1 and 0 in the console) are earned by doing helpful or harmful deeds, respectively, to the faction. Even if the player character's reputation is neutral, if they have sided with the. Reply. ), So I've always sort of helped Ringo out in this mission but this time I decided to help the Powder Gangers. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). NVCE changes their appearance. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. A possible solution is to travel to the Mojave Outpost, put on non-faction clothing/armor, go to where Major Knight is located, save and then speak to Major Knight; select the Speech option asking if there is anything the player can do to help. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. It's an interesting bug, one I have no idea how I produced. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. Fallout: New Vegas. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary | Subscribe for Mod Showcases and New Release 4K Gaming || Fallout: New Vegas Mod - Powder Ganger Overhaul by Dragbody |https://www.gunetwork.org/t15181-fnvr. The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. But their mines are good tho. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both NCR and Legion soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of suffering and abandonment have united both in a combined hatred. Points are accumulated by various means. Powder Ganger Simple: A simple t-shirt and jumpsuit combo. Worsen the condition of an injured Boomer at the. This is because the Courier's reputation with them will drop to the lowest rank possible (like Idolized to Wild Child or Liked to Soft-Hearted Devil). gamespot.comgiantbomb.commetacritic.comfandom.comfanatical.com, Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReportAd. Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) Performed surgery successfully by passing a 9, Reporting to Colonel Moore or Mr. House that the Omertas have been dealt with in, Speaking to Caesar after completing either, Caesar dies in any circumstance, except during his operation in. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to . Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and pass a skill check for each positive comment (+2 each). My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . But, you loose a lot of rep with them if siding with Goodsprings. 2 MauiWowieOwie 1 yr. ago Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. This is a very simple mod, all it does is make Joe Cobb and his five Powder Ganger friends associated with the Fiends. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. Assignment is the defense of New Vegas. Fallout: New Vegas The NCR, Mr. House, and Caesar's Legion are battling it out for control of New Vegas. There are six factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, Powder Gangers, and the White Glove Society) that have disguises which alter one's reputation among other factions. - posted in New Vegas Discussion: So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Joe Cobb): Negative reputation for all towns and factions, For an overview of the game mechanic across titles, see. Not only are they the lowest level of raider, they get [censored] over the fastest. Flatter Caesar by asking how to serve "the mighty Caesar" further when talking again after dealing with the, Teach Decanus Severus at Cottonwood Cove how to make, Defeat the two slaves in the arena during. I do like the lore of the powder gangers a lot more than goodsprings. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall.